Intermission 11 Page 5
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“I think we should finally get around to fixing that poisoned well if we can. The villagers that use it have to be having a bad time.”
“Sounds good. Now, let’s talk about what you’ll need to take with you.”
“Remember that you’re probably going to encounter poisonous monsters, and you’ll definitely be doing some swimming, maybe in long stretches. Damage might be unavoidable, so some healing is probably a good idea.”
“I also recently got access to a new machine. It’s portable, technically, and only works inside a dungeon… but it can be used to improve some of your gear. I don’t know if you’ll need it this time, and it’s expensive, but it’s something to think about.”
“Oh, and I can get you some more books for the library now, if you want.”
“no thanks”
“She means we’ll think about it.”
You can now buy and sell items, order renovations, and select your party and loadout for the next dungeon.
You’ve got an extra day to make your decision!
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RICKI: “I think we should finally get around to fixing that poisoned well if we can. The villagers that use it have to be having a bad time.”
PAWS (pretending to care while he’s desperately listening for any signs of Amadeusz approaching): “Sounds good. Now, let’s talk about what you’ll need to take with you.”
“Remember that you’re probably going to encounter poisonous monsters, and you’ll definitely be doing some swimming, maybe in long stretches. Damage might be unavoidable, so some healing is probably a good idea.”
“I also recently got access to a new machine. It’s portable, technically, and only works inside a dungeon… but it can be used to improve some of your gear. I don’t know if you’ll need it this time, and it’s expensive, but it’s something to think about.”
“Oh, and I can get you some more books for the library now, if you want.”
BOTANYA (still shocked and appalled, and possibly plotting revenge against librarians): “no thanks”
RICKI (making a mental note to interfere and stop the plot against librarians): “She means we’ll think about it.”
You can now buy and sell items, order renovations, and select your party and loadout for the next dungeon.
Wow,can’t believe I missed this page by NINE HOURS.
ANYWAYS…I fell like it’s a good time to copy-paste my comment,& remind everyone to go back a page & read every plan by other readers.
So:
Okay,so I did some math (again) & calculated the money & sellable items:
COLLECTED MONEY(COINPURSE) + STORAGE MONEY + LABOUR MONEY = 8 + 15 + 11 =34 total coins.
The things that are sellable include:
Ricki: Golem Core bombx2 -30×2,Dubious Recipe -25,
Kamau: Shieldx2 -25×2,Plate Armour – 30,Full Helmet -24
Amadeusz: Shield -25,Golem Core -20,Leather Armour -13
Molly: Chain Armourx2 -23×2,Plate Armour -30,Tower Shield -34,
For a grand total of: 357 MONEY!!!Even If divided by 2 (because that’s how Paws works) that’s still 179 MONEY!
That’s likely enough to buy 5 different upgrades!My suggestions are the Kobold Den -40,Undergound Shelter -20,Mammoth Pen -20,Garden -17,Shack With Still -15, for a total of 112 MONEY,& spend the rest on stuff for the Cursed Well exploration…
.Someone in the previous page said Kobold Den,Shack With Still,Sentry Post & Mammoth Pen for 109MONEY,which I’m also fine with!
Curious, no room listed for Amadeusz. Sketchy indeed…
The books offer buffs for characters that have time to read, encouraging swapping people out more. The Tome is most immediately impressive, basically a level up for characters with spells. I expect this applies to Lohk’s Channel, Botanya’s Bloom, and Amadeusz’s Musical. This is narrower than “all spells” sounds, so keep that in mind. Lara might learn new spells on level up, though the Drider Curse does forbid use of corruption abilities.
MAGIC TOME
A giant book on magical techniques that gives characters who stay home 1 bonus use of their spell abilities the next time they enter a dungeon.
Cost 40
Meanwhile, saving up the 100 gold for that Upgrade Press is enticing. It’s limited stock and I suspect it may get left behind in the dungeon, but upgrading equipment in place is what packs more power into the same inventory space.
Notably, gold rings are not available for sale. Need to keep an eye out for blanks.
I forgot Amadeusz’ room, but it’s there now!
Where is the Upgrade Press’s stat page listed?
It is not. Perhaps it will not unless it is purchased.
I’m almost certain that this new machine Paws is selling (the Upgrade Press) is something that the Smith could have done. And holy guacamole, 100 Gold is an eye-watering price-point- but I’m sure it’s worth it, too, even if we might not necessarily want to drag a bulky machine into an underwater dungeon.
I guess it’s also possible that it’s just a story upgrade that we would have unlocked anyways, but the high buy-price, heavy weight, and the seeming introduction of a new mechanic screams “this is a replacement for the dead guy’s crafting thing”. If Mac ever croaks and suddenly Paws starts selling a Ringsmiffing Starter Set we’ll know what’s what.
As far as the book upgrades go: Magic Tome > Battle Histories > Monster Manual. Monster Manual isn’t bad against common enemies, but it has absolutely zero use against bosses and the whole “need to sit a dungeon out for it to refresh” is pretty rough, to say nothing of how its best use is ‘just’ getting a +1 Atk/Def against common mobs. Battle Histories offers a large amount of damage at the beginning of the dungeon, but gets used up afterwards- Kamau would probably get some decent benefit from it, especially if combined with his other one-off attack powers. And Magic Tome is just straight up amazing, the equivalent of a free level up for all of our mages with the caveat that we can’t use them for two dungeons in a row to get the best use out of it, which is something we haven’t really been having a problem with anyways. Sadly, the requirements for characters to stay home for a dungeon means none of the books offer Ricki any benefits.
Personally, I think before we buy the Upgrade Machine we should at least buy the Foyer. It’s an upgrade based around “greeting guests” which sounds all sorts of interesting, and I think a strong possibility of what it does might be giving us a discount with Paws and other Paws-related upgrades, which would be huge for our economy right now.
It’s either that or it involves us meeting *other* NPCs, which is a big deal for a different reason. It could also mean unlocking new services like enchanting, or allowing us to hire NPC followers for dungeons, or any number of things.
LSN confirmed the machine is a worse version of the character we lost
What do you mean “character we lost”??
That Smith from the Imp Outpost who was killed by a golem?I thought he was just a NPC,like the Kobold children in the Warrens,or that one 3-eyed crow.
So we lost access to that character,& respective skills,PERMANENTLY?How were we even supposed to prevent his death when LSN guided him to his death?
As for other questions…Why does Paws hate Amadeusz,does he know about the WOLF thing?Is Lara permanently stuck with her curse,orr can we remove it,or atleast restore her speech?Will we get an upgrade that lets us take 5 people to dungeons (because we ARE getting a lot of new friends)?Where is the Press’s stat page,so we can see whatbenefits it offers?
The book upgrades are very conditional.Unless we plan on taking mages (Lohk,Amad,Tanya) frequently,then the +1 ability isn’t SO special,we can survive without it for a bit.
I suggest we buy what we discussed last page:Kobold Den,Sentry Post,Booze Still.If we have the money,we get Venom Barrage Wand for Lohk to absorb,maybe the boots if we don’t mind the +1ENC for a measly +1DMG/DEF underwater…
Any objections?
We had five turns to rescue him, and multiple plans were posted to check out the basement, they were just never voted on. Democracy at work.
Interesting … I didn’t realize this until you asked the question, but I guess that information is not in any of LSN’s posts; it’s all in the discussions underneath. If you skipped the discussions in your charge through the archive, you probably missed a lot.
We don’t know.
Maybe!
Not at the moment. If the opportunity arises later, I imagine LSN will let us know.
Unlikely.
Excellent question. I’m guessing the only way to find out is to buy it. In the past, all of Paws’s merchandise was made up of things we had already found in dungeons, so we had learned their stats. I believe this is the first item that doesn’t follow that pattern.
The Press most likely functions like a once per dungeon item instead of a twice per dungeon ability from a character (using smiffing as a template).
It is also heavy, and may require materials to use (like rings for smiffing).
With so many unknowns, I think we buy it but leave it behind this dungeon. That way we know the stats and can plan accordingly
I say we buy all the rooms we can instead, so they’ll be ready in case the manor gets invaded at the start of act 3.
Definitely want more rooms for sure, but we don’t know if an invasion is going to happen. While we do know the upgrade press is useful sooner.
It may also be “technically portable”, like, we can take it with ourselves, deploy it at the entrace automatically at the start of the dungeon, pack up and take with us when we’re done, but can’t move it around the dungeon. 100gp sounds quite expesive for a single-use item compared to a multi-use and now-dead character. dang, it’s several renovations!
speaking of, did LN forget about removing prices at Library and PetFood, or are those furher upgradeable features?
I think we really should consider the sentry post. With us doing stuff that involves the Guard, it would be good to have something to protect our investments in the manor before something happens to wreck it. 30 Gold isn’t exactly cheap, but I think we’ll come out ahead by the protection it’ll offer.
Alongside the Warrens & Still/Garden…the extra Labour will help a lot with future upgrades (& more people here means more interactuons,plus the baby kobolds are cute)
Summary: Ricki, Lara, Lhok, Cyx party
Ricki and Lara are the strikers/tanks (we got lots of healing)
Lhok is purely support
Cyx is Striker/support with unique options. (wont be taking poison/water dmg, undead ignore etc.).
Buying Press as we need to know how it works, what it uses and how much it weighs. Better to know sooner so we can take advantage with magic dungeon next.
We Have: 23 gold.
We Sell:
Arrowcatcher: 12.5 gp (its cool but too niche)
Dubious Recipe: 25 gp ($$$)
Battlesmith Hammer: 9 gp (its cool but too niche)
Shield x3: 30 gp (we generally don’t use regular shields, and now we have Corona which is just a better regular shield)
Rings of +1 Def x5: 50 gp (we have better rings)
Ring of +1 Atk: 10 gp
Rings of +2 Atk x2: 25 gp (we have so many atk rings)
Bow: 5 gp (we have a Longbow)
Leather: 6.5 gp (we have better armour)
Plate: 15 gp (spare plate, and we have plenty of chain for smiffing already)
Buy:
Total Funds: 211 gp
222 gp
2x Lens: 16
2x Tools: 10
Upgrade Press: 100 (Leave at manor. Need to know what it uses to function and would rather not bring blindly)
Living Room: 30
Foyer: 30
5x Arrows: 12
Ectoplasm Potion 12
3 gp leftover
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Ricki (HP 7, ATK 6, DEF 7/FIR 10)
-Suns’ Raze
-Hide, Bat (2)
-Shield, Magma (2)
-Lens
-Lens
-Thieves’ Tools
-Thieves’ Tools
-Thieves’ Tools (Free!)
-1 money pouch
Rings: +3 Atk, +3 Dodge
Pets: None
Lara (HP 12, ATK 9, DEF 7/PSN 16)
-Swiftblade
-Shield, Heavy (2)
-Siegesword (2)
-Dragon Robes, Poison
-Rope
-Cigs (Free!)
-Golem Core (for swarms if enemies)
-2 Empty Slots
Rings: +2 Atk, +2 Def
Pet: Squirrel
Lohk (HP 7, ATK 3, DEF 1)
-Cane
-Wand of Mend
-Wand of Fireballs
-Potion Bandolier (Greater Healing Potion, Free Healing Potion, Ectoplasm Potion)
-empty slot
Rings: +2 Atk
Pet: None
Coccyx (HP 7, ATK 3/RNG 6, DEF 4)
-Longbow (2)
-6x Arrows
-6x Arrows (Free!)
-Monk Robes
-Empty Slot
Rings: +2 Atk, +2 Def
Pet: Toaster
It is well thought-out,but last page MOST people wanted Kobold Den,Sentry Post and Still.The extra labour will help pay for future upgrades,AND we’ll have more interactions/roleplay with more people at the Manor (plus,baby kobolds are adorable).
Maybe bring Daisy/Lazuli & Golly?We can’t know FOR SURE that they WON’T drown.Maybe buy Venom Barrage for Lohk to absorb.
Besides that,no strong disagreements.I do think we can buy the Press AFTER the Well.
I think you’re misinterpreting “I wanted” as “most people wanted”.
Coccyx is a waste of time and money… shit stats for only 6 damage top lmao
Where Ricki, Lara, Lhok, Cordy party??
I do like Claudious’ plan, but I think instead of purchasing the Upgrade Press, we want more Manor upgrades.
Frankly, both the Library buffs are potentially quite strong. Monster Manuals will give us bonuses in an increasing number of fights, further rewarding us for using lenses to capture information. Depending on party comp, lensing an enemy can become an immediate +3 attack for all encounters (along with a defense bonus).
Magic Tome is more questionable, but nearly every character appears to have one or more skills that may benefit. It could potentially apply to:
Lohk – Channel
Botanya – Bloom
Amadeusz – Musical, Shapeshift?
Ricki – Case? Grit?
Mac – Ringsmif?
Kamau – Dauntless? Heavy Strike?
Starting construction on those now means they’ll be online for the beginning of Act III (build during well, acquire buffs during next dungeon, buffs available for Act III)
I also think we should have the Sentry Post completed before we go bother the guards again.
So, with minor tweaks we end up with
Summary: Ricki, Lara, Lohk, Cyx party
Ricki and Lara are the strikers/tanks (we got lots of healing)
Lohk is purely support
Cyx is Striker/support with unique options. (wont be taking poison/water dmg, undead ignore etc.).
We Have: 23 gold.
We Sell:
Arrowcatcher: 12.5 gp (its cool but too niche)
Dubious Recipe: 25 gp ($$$)
Battlesmith Hammer: 9 gp (its cool but too niche)
Shield x3: 30 gp (we generally don’t use regular shields, and now we have Corona which is just a better regular shield)
Rings of +1 Def x5: 50 gp (we have better rings)
Ring of +1 Atk: 10 gp
Rings of +2 Atk x2: 25 gp (we have so many atk rings)
Bow: 5 gp (we have a Longbow)
Leather: 6.5 gp (we have better armour)
Plate: 15 gp (spare plate, and we have plenty of chain for smiffing already)
Buy:
Total Funds: 211gp
2x Lens: 16
2x Tools: 10
5x Arrows: 12
Ectoplasm Potion 12
Magic Tome: 40
Monster Manuals: 30
Sentry Post: 30
Living Room: 30
Foyer: 30
13 gp leftover
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Ricki (HP 7, ATK 6, DEF 7/FIR 10)
-Suns’ Raze
-Hide, Bat (2)
-Shield, Magma (2)
-Lens
-Lens
-Thieves’ Tools
-Thieves’ Tools
-Thieves’ Tools (Free!)
-1 money pouch
Rings: +3 Atk, +3 Dodge
Pets: None
Lara (HP 12, ATK 9, DEF 7/PSN 16)
-Swiftblade
-Shield, Heavy (2)
-Siegesword (2)
-Dragon Robes, Poison
-Rope
-Cigs (Free!)
-Golem Core (for swarms if enemies)
-2 Empty Slots
Rings: +2 Atk, +2 Def
Pet: Squirrel
Lohk (HP 7, ATK 3, DEF 1)
-Cane
-Wand of Mend
-Wand of Fireballs
-Potion Bandolier (Greater Healing Potion, Free Healing Potion, Ectoplasm Potion)
-empty slot
Rings: +2 Atk
Pet: None
Coccyx (HP 7, ATK 3/RNG 6, DEF 4)
-Longbow (2)
-6x Arrows
-6x Arrows (Free!)
-Monk Robes
-Empty Slot
Rings: +2 Atk, +2 Def
Pet: Toaster
Additional bonus:
Upvote this comment to add Phoenix to the party as Lohk’s pet so that LSN has to draw a chicken on Lohk’s head throughout the well.
This costs us 3 labor, for a 2 hp, 1 atk, 0 def pet we can’t protect with interpose, but Phoenix is still listed as Tiny, so can be carried to protect her from environmental damage, and I think having a chicken riding on Lohk’s head is worth the price of admission.
No iron boots? Could be handy, and they only cost 6 gp
They have a 2 ENC cost to remove swimming & underwater combat penalites. So it’s essentially 2 ENC for +1/+1… I don’t THINK it’s worth it, but we do have the cash to spare.
Ah, I missed the 2 enc. That’s a definite drawback, especially since we’re going in with most of our slots full already.
Also, Lara can’t use so very limited.
It is a a buff that is both VERY useful,but VERY niche.PLUS we don’t know for sure if drowning will be as problematic as it was in the Sewers.
ALSO,how do you know how ACTS are separated?I assume Act 2 started with the awuisition of the Manor,how’d you find out ACT3 will start after we attack the Research Base?
And HOW do we know the Smith who was murdered by a golem was a potential new party member?LSN’s Discord?
As far as acts go, the pattern we’ve noticed is that no new dungeons get offered after a certain point. We also get warned when doing a dungeon removes any other dungeons as an option. We will probably get a mandatory dungeon after we do the last guard dungeon like the manor.
For the dead character, LSN does give free previews of new characters on his Kofi page. Also, the dead body remained after his death which LSN does to mark our shame
iron boots for swimming? aw maan :):):)
I am fairly confident that “spells” are any ability of the shape “Can use N :emoji: abilities per dungeon”. That’s just Channel, Bloom, and Musical. Note that Smif Ring has a different structure, despite being a modular ability it is worded as a single ability that is given extra conditions by other abilities. Dauntless is unlikely to count for the same reason Mom Senses doesn’t qualify, it’s a standalone ability.
There’s no need now to ask how this interacts with Corruption. I suppose Lara never really had a limit on how many times she could use Her spells, just a consequence for each use, so the Tome wouldn’t impact her. It’s not impossible for her new level up options to include some way to access those spells, but given that she didn’t just lose the Corruption permission-granting ability but also gained Drider Curse which forbids :spider: use, those abilities are firmly off limits.
Are we SERIOUSLY not buying the Kobold Den OR the Still after discussing it the ENTIRE previous page’s Comment Section?
We can sell the Imbued Sulls,Owlbear hat,and Gravity Staff if we don’t gave money for it.Especially because +1DEF/DMG for Kamau staying AT THE MANOR during the attack at the Research Base is NOT a buff the way you think it is.
BESIDES that,no strong disagreements,I just really want booze & little kobolds.
We can still get them after this dungeon.
I support this plan.
I’m for this one too
I want to see Coccyx in action, bond Lohk, and I love the manor upgrades, especially the Sentry for that unwanted Guard attention
Werewolfgang Amadeusz Is the only party member we need. I trust him implicitly.
It’s funny how the SKETCHY party member isn’t the former cultist,or the Imperial Genocider…
I wonder if we can remove the SKETCHY ability in any way…
He is a genocider. Please read Arena Slaves, on the ko fi page
My take on the Ricki/Lara/Coccyx/Lohk party.
Same ideas as previous plans for this party but
-Bedrooms have powerful unstated bonuses and story as we previously saw. I think we should focus on them first
-I’m paranoid about pets drowning because only tiny pets are immune to environmental damage so only Squirrel as pet
-I like having a cuddly, fluffy mammoth and I’d like to buy shack with still after next dungeon
-This keeps no one under 3 Def, unexpected things can happen
We Have: 23 gold.
We Sell:
Arrowcatcher: 12.5 gp (its cool but too niche)
Dubious Recipe: 25 gp ($$$)
Battlesmith Hammer: 9 gp (its cool but too niche)
Shield x3: 30 gp (we generally don’t use regular shields, and now we have Corona which is just a better regular shield)
Rings of +1 Def x5: 50 gp (we have better rings)
Rings of +1 Atk: 10 gp (we have better rings)
Rings of +2 Atk x2: 25 gp (we have so many atk rings)
Bow: 5 gp (we have a Longbow)
Leather: 6.5 gp (we have better armour)
Plate: 15 gp (spare plate, and we have chain for smiffing already)
Chain armor: 23 gp (we’ll still have 1 left, likely find more before we unlock gold rings, and smiffing is best done with imperial gear anyway)
Spider Gland x2: 4 gp (poison use sucks)
Bone armor: 10 gp (Niche, and not that amazing for its niche. We’re not even bringing it for Coccyx)
Total Funds: 248 gp
We Buy
2x Lens: 16
2x Thieves’ Tools: 10
5x Arrow: 10
Ectoplasm potion : 12
Closet: 30
Upgrade Press: 100
Master bedroom: 50
Mammoth: 20
0 gp leftover
Loadouts:
Ricki(HP 7, ATK 6, DEF 7/FIR 10)
-Suns’ Raze
-Magma shield
-Bat armor
-Purse
-2 lens
-3 lockpicks
0 slots empty(+5 after using consumables)
Rings: +3 Atk, +3 Dodge
Lara (HP 12, ATK 9, DEF 7/PSN 16)
-Swiftblade
-Shield, Heavy
-Siegesword
-Poison Robes
-Rope
-Golem Core
-Cigs
-Cheese
0 Empty Slots (+4 after using consumables)
Rings: +2 Atk, +2 Def
Pet: Squirrel
Lohk(HP 7, ATK 7, DEF 3)
-Cane
-Potion Bandolier(Health, Greater Health, Ectoplasm)
-Monk Robes
-Candy
Rings: + 2 Atk, +2 Atk
1 slot empty (+1 after using consumables)
Coccyx (HP 7, RNG 6, DEF 3)
-Longbow
-12 arrows
-Heavy Gauntlets
Rings: +2 def
1 slot empty
-12 total free inventory slots after using consumables
If you don’t mind the self-promotion,
Okay,so I did some math (again) & calculated the money & sellable items:
COLLECTED MONEY(COINPURSE) + STORAGE MONEY + LABOUR MONEY = 8 + 15 + 11 =34 total coins.
The things that are sellable include:
Ricki: Golem Core bombx2 -30×2,Dubious Recipe -25,
Kamau: Shieldx2 -20×2,Plate Armour – 30,Full Helmet -24 (I don’t know why I misread Shield as 25)
Amadeusz: Shield -25,Golem Core -20,Leather Armour -13
Molly: Chain Armourx2 -23×2,Plate Armour -30,Tower Shield -34,
Storage:All rings below gold,all venom glands,Heavy Shield AND 1x Imbued Skull (I can’t check the value at this current moment)
For a grand total of: +357 MONEY!!!Even If divided by 2 (because that’s how Paws works) that’s still +179 MONEY!
That’s likely enough to buy 5 different upgrades!My suggestions are the Kobold Den -40,Undergound Shelter -20,Mammoth Pen -20,Garden -17,Shack With Still -15, for a total of 112 MONEY,& spend the rest on stuff for the Cursed Well exploration…
.Someone in the previous page said Kobold Den,Shack With Still,Sentry Post & Mammoth Pen for 109MONEY,which I’m also fine with!
The Press & Master Bedroom are too expensive together,if we ARE going to buy a bedroom,it should be for Coccyx,AND if we ARE buying a Book upgrade,it should be Magic Tome.
The +Labour we get from my proposed upgrades will be turned into coins,which will help buy the Press & Bedroom after Well/ImpResearchBase…
Wow,interior design for a webcomic’s house REALLY iS Serious Business(tm)…
My take on the Ricki/Lara/Cordy/Amad party.
Ideas:
[Gameplan]
-Amad uses his music early and often for early game boost while Cordy makes everyone free shrooms from range with wand and hood
-After out of music, Amad turns wolf which lets him see in the dark
-After shrooming up, Cordy and Lara swaps hats
[General]
-I’m paranoid about pets drowning because only tiny pets are immune to environmental damage so only shrooms as pets
-I like Rabbit Paw here as it allow us to offload treasure found to help with having no Golly AND stock up on extra healing, lockpicks or whatever required as needed
-This party composition has tons of damage and defense, letting us end underwater fights quickly so we don’t spend as much time drowning.
-In terms of healing, we have Grit, Greater healing potion, candy, mending, eating shrooms and can get Ectoplasm with Rabbit Paw if we still need more, on top of high starting hp in general
-I like having a cuddly, fluffy mammoth and I’d like to buy shack with still after next dungeon
We Have: 23 gold.
We Sell:
Arrowcatcher: 12.5 gp (its cool but too niche)
Dubious Recipe: 25 gp ($$$)
Battlesmith Hammer: 9 gp (its cool but too niche)
Shield x3: 30 gp (we generally don’t use regular shields, and now we have Corona which is just a better regular shield)
Rings of +1 Def x5: 50 gp (we have better rings)
Rings of +1 Atk: 10 gp (we have better rings)
Rings of +2 Atk: 12.5 gp (we have so many atk rings)
Bow: 5 gp (we have a Longbow)
Leather: 6.5 gp (we have better armour)
Plate: 15 gp (spare plate, and we have chain for smiffing already)
Chain armor: 11.5 gp (we’ll still have 2 left, likely find more before we unlock gold rings, and smiffing is best done with imperial gear anyway)
Spider Gland x3: 6 gp (poison use sucks)
Cobra Gland: 5 gp (poison use sucks)
Bone armor: 10 gp (Niche, and not that amazing for its niche. We wouldn’t even bring it for Coccyx)
Total Funds: 231 gp
We Buy
2x Lens: 16
Thieves’ Tools: 5
Paw: 10
Sentry Post: 30
Upgrade Press: 100
Master bedroom: 50
Mammoth: 20
0 gp left
Loadouts:
Ricki(HP 7, ATK 9, DEF 8/FIR 11 with shroom buff)
-Swiftblade
-Magma shield
-Bat armor
-Purse
-Paw
-2 lens
-2 lockpicks
Rings: +3 Atk, +3 Dodge
-0 slots empty(+5 after using consumables)
Lara(HP 12, ATK 15, DEF 7/PSN 16 with shroom buff)
-Siegesword
-Poison robes
-Full Helmet
-Heavy Gauntlets
-Rope
Rings: + 2 Atk, +2 Def
-3 slots empty (+1 after using consumables)
Cordy(HP 10, ATK 10, DEF 6 with shroom buffs)
-Rotfang hood
-Sting wand
-Greater healing potion
Rings: + 2 Atk, +2 Atk
-3 slots empty (+1 after using consumables)
Amad (HP 11, ATK 9, DEF 8 with Shapeshift)
-Zing and Thrum
-Full Helmet
-Heavy Greaves
-Wand of mend
-Candy
Rings: + 2 Atk, +2 Def
-3 slot empty (+1 after using consumables)
-17 total free inventory slots after using consumables and can sell treasure to Paw
Boo, no bond
Admittedly,if we ARE going to use Amy,then Cordy is a good teammate.
He can tank & ressurect if he has enough Big Mushrooms,& he has no Bond to raise,while Lara already has MAX bond.
I have NO IDEA who the heck suggested Amy&Cordy instead of Lohk&Coccyx,but he really can’t read the room (or Comments Section in this case)
Yeah no bond means that’s a no go for me at least for now.
Amadeuz lot cooler than Coccyx but he still sus af
Where Ricki, Lara, Lhok, Cordy party??
I would rather not sacrifice a good ending by neglecting our bonds. Plus, Amadeusz’ room may even remove his sketchy trait, who knows? Let’s wait until then.
No Lohk and only 1 potion means everyone will be on 4 HP and we’ll have to spend half the time not to drop lower
A no-upgrade press variant of my previous party as Zuvatan requested on Discord.
Same ideas as previous plans for this party but
-Buying more manor upgrades over upgrade press
-We spend a bit less total gold to make sure we’ll have enough to buy the upgrade press next dungeon
We Have: 23 gold.
We Sell:
Arrowcatcher: 12.5 gp (its cool but too niche)
Dubious Recipe: 25 gp ($$$)
Battlesmith Hammer: 9 gp (its cool but too niche)
Shield x3: 30 gp (we generally don’t use regular shields, and now we have Corona which is just a better regular shield)
Rings of +1 Def x5: 50 gp (we have better rings)
Rings of +1 Atk: 10 gp (we have better rings)
Rings of +2 Atk: 12.5 gp (we have so many atk rings)
Bow: 5 gp (we have a Longbow)
Leather: 6.5 gp (we have better armour)
Plate: 15 gp (spare plate, and we have chain for smiffing already)
Chain armor: 11.5 gp (we’ll still have 2 left, likely find more before we unlock gold rings, and smiffing is best done with imperial gear anyway)
Total Funds: 210 gp
We Buy
2x Lens: 16
Thieves’ Tools: 5
Paw: 10
Sentry Post: 30
Magic Tome: 40
Living Room: 30
Master bedroom: 50
Mammoth: 20
9 gp left
Loadouts:
Ricki(HP 7, ATK 9, DEF 8/FIR 11 with shroom buff)
-Swiftblade
-Magma shield
-Bat armor
-Purse with 9 gp
-Paw
-2 lens
-2 lockpicks
Rings: +3 Atk, +3 Dodge
-0 slots empty(+5 after using consumables)
Lara(HP 12, ATK 15, DEF 7/PSN 16 with shroom buff)
-Siegesword
-Poison robes
-Full Helmet
-Heavy Gauntlets
-Rope
Rings: + 2 Atk, +2 Def
-3 slots empty (+1 after using consumables)
Cordy(HP 10, ATK 10, DEF 6 with shroom buffs)
-Rotfang hood
-Sting wand
-Greater healing potion
Rings: + 2 Atk, +2 Atk
-3 slots empty (+1 after using consumables)
Amad (HP 11, ATK 9, DEF 8 with Shapeshift)
-Zing and Thrum
-Full Helmet
-Heavy Greaves
-Wand of mend
-Candy
Rings: + 2 Atk, +2 Def
-3 slot empty (+1 after using consumables)
-17 total free inventory slots after using consumables and can sell treasure to Paw
I feel like my comment is also worth considering,if you don’t mind the self-promotion:
Okay,so I did some math (again) & calculated the money & sellable items:
COLLECTED MONEY(COINPURSE) + STORAGE MONEY + LABOUR MONEY = 8 + 15 + 11 =34 total coins.
The things that are sellable include:
Ricki: Golem Core bombx2 -30×2,Dubious Recipe -25,
Kamau: Shieldx2 -20×2,Plate Armour – 30,Full Helmet -24
Amadeusz: Shield -25,Golem Core -20,Leather Armour -13
Molly: Chain Armourx2 -23×2,Plate Armour -30,Tower Shield -34,
Storage:Heavy Shield & 1xImbued Skulls.
For a grand total of: +357 MONEY!!!Even If divided by 2 (because that’s how Paws works) that’s still 179 MONEY!
That’s likely enough to buy 5 different upgrades!My suggestions are the Kobold Den -40,Undergound Shelter -20,Mammoth Pen -20,Garden -17,Shack With Still -15, for a total of 112 MONEY,& spend the rest on stuff for the Cursed Well exploration (Venom Barrage Wand for Lohk,potions for Lara,MAYBE the boots if you don’t mind the +2ENC as much as I do.
.Someone in the previous page said Kobold Den,Shack With Still,Sentry Post & Mammoth Pen for 109MONEY,which I’m also fine with!
The issue with the labor upgrades are that they will take 10 dungeons to recover the costs to build them. I’d rather have a permanent upgrade for those 10 dungeons that help us bring back more loot.
If they provided more upgrades after or something then I’d be all for it
Oh,I can definetly see why you’d have a problem with that.
BUT my thought process was based on the party always returning with good loot to sell,& having income from labour.I wanted to get rid of the cheapest + useful upgrades first,hence why I suggested Garden & Underground Shelter.
Plus,morally,the kobold family WOULD need a home,more so than the creep & skeleton.
AND we managed to survive for a decent while without the Book Upgrades,relying on good thinking & item arangement.
But if you’re after min-maxing & not getting upgrades,then I can see why you want to get the Master Bedroom & Upgrade Press (still have no idea where people found out the guy killed by the golem was a party member,& how we were to save him beyong slaying the golem)
Where we found out the guy was a party member: LSN confirmed on discord/his wrapup stream.
How to save him: Slaying the golems, yes. He would have gone around trying to slay all the big golems. Had we helped him, he would have joined the party.
As far as the labor goes, let me set up as imaginary scenario to explain our position.
You loan my company $1000, with unusual repayment terms. You can’t get the original money back all at once, but you get a payment of $100 every year as long as the company exists. So after 11 years, you would have made a profit, and everything after that would be free money, right? After 110 years you’d have made $10,000, off such a small investment!
But if my company goes away, you don’t get a payment anymore. Even if I haven’t paid back the original amount, you don’t get the difference. And I’ve been talking about retiring and closing my company in 5-15 years. So you MIGHT make $500, but you also might lose $500.
And that’s without counting the opportunity cost – you could instead spend that $1000 on a different investment. It doesn’t have as concrete, clearly written terms as my deal, but you’ll probably end up making more, both short term and long term.
We’re not min-maxing in the stat sense, we’re min-maxing in the “overall return on investment, counting both passive income and dungeon income as equal” sense.
We (at least some of us) are interested in providing a home to the kobold family and such. Just not pointless things like the chicken coop or garden.
Just a reminder, in case it isn’t obvious:
Amadeusz’ bond requirement is so high that it will almost certainly require sacrificing (nearly) EVERY OTHER CHARACTER’S BOND to max him out. Due to how Sketchy works, if we’re bonding him nobody else is earning bond points.
We are only likely to have ~6-8 regular dungeons left in the comic (a guess based on comments LSN has made on stream and discord). If we bring Amadeusz, nobody else can earn bond points for 5 more dungeons, leaving ~1-3 remaining dungeons for all other characters.
We have a couple characters close (Kamau, Mac) that would probably be able to finish their bonds, but we would almost certainly not finish bonds on Lohk, Botanya, Coccyx, or whoever the new character we’re likely to meet in the Research center is.
So if you want more maxed out bonds, it’s probably a bad idea to sink resources into Amadeusz.